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Kathleen Dugan's avatar

So amazing! ‘We don’t care what our voters think, we don’t care if (our) people are freezing and spending ridiculous sums on living expenses, by god we’re not gonna stop until we get those Commies!’ Cuz we’ve all decided this needs to happen! ‘To the last Ukrainian’!

Disgusting.

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Andy Wilcoxson's avatar

This reminds me of Bosnia. Before the war in Bosnia started, the Bosnian Serbs, Bosnian Croats, and Bosnian Muslims all agreed to a peace plan that had been brokered by a Portuguese diplomat named Jose Cutileiro, in Lisbon, under the auspices of the European Community.

The Lisbon Agreement (also known as the Cutileiro Plan) had been accepted by all three parties until the American ambassador, Warren Zimmermann, convinced the Bosnian Muslim leader, Alija Izetbegovic, to withdraw from the agreement.

Zimmermann encouraged Izetbegovic to fight for a unitary Bosnian state (as opposed to the tripartite state negotiated at Lisbon) and promised him American support. Consequently, Izetbegovic withdrew from the peace process and instigated the war.

The Bosnian Muslims suffered the heaviest losses in the war, but in the end the Dayton Peace Agreement didn't really give them anything they couldn't have had under the Cutileiro Plan.

Goading the Bosnian Muslims into withdrawing from the peace process and starting a war gave NATO a pretext to establish a military presence in the former Yugoslavia, but it certainly didn't benefit any if the people who lived there.

In 2005, a Serbian nationalist politician named Vojislav Seselj said something that I dismissed as crazy at the time, but now I think he may have been on to something.

He said, "NATO has strategic interests in fully diluting Russia and therefore they need a foothold in the Balkans, in the Ukraine, and in central Asia. Their ultimate objective is to break up all of Russia. It wasn't enough for them to break up the Soviet Union. They do not want to have a single factor in the background that is not reliable in their intentions of this nature.

"So why were we Serbs always subject to NATO attacks and why did NATO always support our enemies in all the civil wars that were waged? They see us as potential Russian allies in all wars in the Balkans and they want to destroy us as the only nation, the only army, the only force that would not subject itself to a dictate."

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