This latest sick, dishonest horror simply shows openly the cynical deep evil of the American
Capitalist Tyranny acting for the War Machine that owns government. There is no justification for it in any calculus. It is a raw act of imperial aggression promoted by the Zionist Jews that have captured American polity and disenfranchised our stupid, propagandized people.
What Trump did is no different then the presidents before him. How is it any different then the Iraq war carried out under the Bush/Cheney presidency based on lies pushed by Netanyahu, the lie that were pursuing nuclear weapons. Cheney helped to push it down the throats of his fellow democrats and it was no different under Obama who pushed the war in Syria, and Libya. It continues since the agenda was not complete with Iran still not reduced to rubble and chaos.
So this is what the US meant by freeing Iranians. The last time I checked, killing school children wasn't liberating. It's called cold-bloodied calculated murder. Can you imagine if the situation were reversed and Iran bombed a US or Israeli school? The reaction from the government and media would be entirely different. My heart goes out to the families of those precious children. No child should have their lives cut short because of warmongering narcissists. May they rest in peace.
Hedges and Greenwald published articles yesterday and referenced the killing of some 80 students killed, children, and yet when I referenced there were those who challenged it's culpability as if the US and Israel would never do that. I guess they perceive the genocide both Israel and the US is implementing is just a walk in the park.
I believe the death toll is around 165 now. Whether it was 1 child or 300, you can be certain there'll always be a spineless and dishonest creature defending or denying the actions and intentions of war criminals. The only time you'll see their outrage is when the victims look like them. They have the bloodiest hands and the shortest memories. I hope you're well, Fran. Kind regards
Why is there no reference to the fact that Israel has thrust America into all our Middle Eastern wars, not just Iraq and Iran, or did I miss something? Netanyahu identified all those Middle Eastern countries we targeted as terrorist states and a threat to Israel. Iran has been on their hit list for decades and now Trump has no doubt kept a promise he made when he came into office. He also got 100 million from Adelson and she got a necklace strung around her neck in broad day light, so to speak, and no doubt symbolic that he would keep his promise and then some. Not enough emphasis on the degree of control Israel has over us or, the degree of destruction we have implemented on her behalf. It also seems quite obvious his back and forth position on Iran was little more then a game and the message sent was Iran gave us no other choice.
This is the exact task for which Trump received the support of AIPAC.
The usual formula for "regime change" involves the following sequence: Limited use of military force to create chaos/destabilization. Chaos provides cover for bribery of elites or power figures, and some form of behind the scenes coup d'etat. The variation Israel likes puts assassinations front and center, but this is still a form of destabilization. Ultimately, someone compliant has to take over. A strategy of provocation and/or demonstrating impunity, by targeting of women and children, is also characteristic. Both Obama and Trump gradually embraced the assassination - and the targeting of women and children at scale has been a go-to for the US since the obsession with "strategic bombing" demonstrated ever since the 1950s.
But both destabilization and strategic bombing have a miserable record. What works is bribery and coup d'etat. These in turn work when there is a misalignment between the elites/power-figures... the so called "principal-agent problem", where power figures tend to be more interested in (1) their power within the system they inhabit and (2) converting that power into wealth. That's the real secret sauce to an imperialist program. Monarchies in the age of capitalism are the quintessential example, but you see this tendency even in countries with democratic structures that are sound on paper. This includes the US itself and Israel too. Any realist analysis of national interest is confounded quite a bit by this very common misalignment - both in the victims of imperialist policy, and the power centers themselves.
With that in mind: For Netanyahu and his group, and therefore also for Trump, Iran is the most pressing roadblock to more power, and so they're trying what they can while they have the means. Most of the costs of this war are totally discounted: costs for Europe, for the Gulfies, for US power position in relation to China, for US wealth as a whole, and (despite the mad rantings of the Israeli right), even for Israel's own long term future and near term prosperity.
The way these things are accounted for in the minds of the decision makers - captured by Netanyahu and Trump's group - are totally different. With more war, Netanyahu actually gets more secure in his position within the world he inhabits. His business pals will probably lose money though if Iran continues to hits Israel, especially if the anti-ballistic / anti-drone munitions run out. That's probably the sole lever acting on the Israeli side. The Gulfies are hostage to the situation, being by far the most vulnerable - they're not in a position to join the fighting. Europeans are already neutered. US is essentially impervious to events, not being dependent on energy imports apart from specialties (eg heavy crude), which anyway the money printing can paper over for now. Don't be fooled about any US casualties, they count for little and will be denied until after the election. The one pain point for Trump is going to be that the Democrats might nevertheless use any resulting global economic shock to take him out in the fall. Without Congress, he's easily impeached for financial improprieties, ie without the Democrats getting into the abuse, rape, and possibly murder of young girls - which their own people seem to have also taken part in. After the election Dems will continue to support Israel just as Biden did through the first years of the Gaza genocide, but that too is irrelevant in Trump's calculus.
So the conditions to stop actually exist now, as both the main instigators face consequences: Netanyahu's group facing financial loss, and Trump facing political power loss (jail unfortunately not likely due to pardon). But US/Israeli practice of killing their negotiating partners burned the bridges very thoroughly now. Iran is basically in a position where they need to make this hurt as much as possible for both of the main instigators, before everyone runs low of ammunition, and the fighting reduces intensity to the rate of its production. Lots of wild cards in neighboring country activity (majority of Gulfie leaders hated as sellouts), how much China, Russia, etc do to help Iran. The Trump admin (+ Netanyahu) has left the US absolutely no moral or diplomatic cover whatsoever. It is plain to the world they are criminals of the worst kind.
What happened to Israel in your assessment of this assault? Iran is a country Israel has always perceived as a threat, and like always we do their bidding.
Jenny, from the very beginning all our Middle Eastern wars were fought for Israel. Listen to Jeffery Sachs, who is one of the few to make that truth very clear. In Fighting Terrorism Netanyahu identifies those countries that have to go, because he wants to level the playing field and no one to thwart his agenda for a greater Israel. He has always talked about the threat Iran poses to Israel. Look into AIPAC and see how our elected officials operate according to a pro-Israeli agenda. Mearsheimer talks about this a lot. The US is bought. How do our elected officials stand up and applaud Netanyahu who at the time had his genocidal plans for Gaza already underway? Why does the US supply them weapons, to carry out their ungodly genocide? How does Adelson get a necklace hung around her neck by Trump? Well, she paid for a wish with 100 million to make SURE the West Bank, already in large part taken over by Israel, is 100 percent theirs. The Zionists want all of it. Of course we're making the doctor's wish come true, and we were accommodating them even before the 100 million was in Trump's pocket.
Yep good point! Economic blockade can align directly with the bribery -> coup d'etat line of action. Usually. But if the grip is too tight, harder to make the payoff, like how Russian oligarchs were quite corruptible when trading with the EU, but cutting them off actually reduced their value for power politics. More problematical now, is countries with land links to Russia or China can't be blockaded.
"Sanctions" are something we do to allies, in my observation. (Despite the rhetoric... you can't order you enemies to do something, you can only give orders to those who listen).
Apparently/ reading between the lines the European vassals are now considering joining the USA against Iran.
How many US Bases do we have in Europe?
Sick spineless sycophant Europeans.
They have not figured out yet that the West (white) people have lost their brutal hold on the world.
...........and before I finish, I was brought up in a Colonial family in Sri Lanka. Smug/perspiring white people in the heat. All brown people were stupid and yet before the Dutch/Portuguese people arrived. Singhalese had build canals and 'tanks' to preserve water. They also understood high buildings attracted rain. All this was done whilst the European population were emerging from caves!
It would be funny if it weren’t so grim to see the Israeli apologists on Piers Morgan fly into a rage if anyone suggests AIPAC money has bought Congress and pro Zionists have bought Trump. We are not strategic allies — we’re dupes — but they’re determined and desperate to maintain the illusion this isn’t so.
This latest sick, dishonest horror simply shows openly the cynical deep evil of the American
Capitalist Tyranny acting for the War Machine that owns government. There is no justification for it in any calculus. It is a raw act of imperial aggression promoted by the Zionist Jews that have captured American polity and disenfranchised our stupid, propagandized people.
It's extremely shameful that Trump keeps doing Pearl Harbors - pretending to engage in diplomacy, and launching attacks in the middle. UnAmerican
What Trump did is no different then the presidents before him. How is it any different then the Iraq war carried out under the Bush/Cheney presidency based on lies pushed by Netanyahu, the lie that were pursuing nuclear weapons. Cheney helped to push it down the throats of his fellow democrats and it was no different under Obama who pushed the war in Syria, and Libya. It continues since the agenda was not complete with Iran still not reduced to rubble and chaos.
Correct. Japan was about to do 'a deal' and then what happened???????
So this is what the US meant by freeing Iranians. The last time I checked, killing school children wasn't liberating. It's called cold-bloodied calculated murder. Can you imagine if the situation were reversed and Iran bombed a US or Israeli school? The reaction from the government and media would be entirely different. My heart goes out to the families of those precious children. No child should have their lives cut short because of warmongering narcissists. May they rest in peace.
Hedges and Greenwald published articles yesterday and referenced the killing of some 80 students killed, children, and yet when I referenced there were those who challenged it's culpability as if the US and Israel would never do that. I guess they perceive the genocide both Israel and the US is implementing is just a walk in the park.
I believe the death toll is around 165 now. Whether it was 1 child or 300, you can be certain there'll always be a spineless and dishonest creature defending or denying the actions and intentions of war criminals. The only time you'll see their outrage is when the victims look like them. They have the bloodiest hands and the shortest memories. I hope you're well, Fran. Kind regards
Thanks Diane, I appreciate it, and absolutely agree.
Why is there no reference to the fact that Israel has thrust America into all our Middle Eastern wars, not just Iraq and Iran, or did I miss something? Netanyahu identified all those Middle Eastern countries we targeted as terrorist states and a threat to Israel. Iran has been on their hit list for decades and now Trump has no doubt kept a promise he made when he came into office. He also got 100 million from Adelson and she got a necklace strung around her neck in broad day light, so to speak, and no doubt symbolic that he would keep his promise and then some. Not enough emphasis on the degree of control Israel has over us or, the degree of destruction we have implemented on her behalf. It also seems quite obvious his back and forth position on Iran was little more then a game and the message sent was Iran gave us no other choice.
This is the exact task for which Trump received the support of AIPAC.
The usual formula for "regime change" involves the following sequence: Limited use of military force to create chaos/destabilization. Chaos provides cover for bribery of elites or power figures, and some form of behind the scenes coup d'etat. The variation Israel likes puts assassinations front and center, but this is still a form of destabilization. Ultimately, someone compliant has to take over. A strategy of provocation and/or demonstrating impunity, by targeting of women and children, is also characteristic. Both Obama and Trump gradually embraced the assassination - and the targeting of women and children at scale has been a go-to for the US since the obsession with "strategic bombing" demonstrated ever since the 1950s.
But both destabilization and strategic bombing have a miserable record. What works is bribery and coup d'etat. These in turn work when there is a misalignment between the elites/power-figures... the so called "principal-agent problem", where power figures tend to be more interested in (1) their power within the system they inhabit and (2) converting that power into wealth. That's the real secret sauce to an imperialist program. Monarchies in the age of capitalism are the quintessential example, but you see this tendency even in countries with democratic structures that are sound on paper. This includes the US itself and Israel too. Any realist analysis of national interest is confounded quite a bit by this very common misalignment - both in the victims of imperialist policy, and the power centers themselves.
With that in mind: For Netanyahu and his group, and therefore also for Trump, Iran is the most pressing roadblock to more power, and so they're trying what they can while they have the means. Most of the costs of this war are totally discounted: costs for Europe, for the Gulfies, for US power position in relation to China, for US wealth as a whole, and (despite the mad rantings of the Israeli right), even for Israel's own long term future and near term prosperity.
The way these things are accounted for in the minds of the decision makers - captured by Netanyahu and Trump's group - are totally different. With more war, Netanyahu actually gets more secure in his position within the world he inhabits. His business pals will probably lose money though if Iran continues to hits Israel, especially if the anti-ballistic / anti-drone munitions run out. That's probably the sole lever acting on the Israeli side. The Gulfies are hostage to the situation, being by far the most vulnerable - they're not in a position to join the fighting. Europeans are already neutered. US is essentially impervious to events, not being dependent on energy imports apart from specialties (eg heavy crude), which anyway the money printing can paper over for now. Don't be fooled about any US casualties, they count for little and will be denied until after the election. The one pain point for Trump is going to be that the Democrats might nevertheless use any resulting global economic shock to take him out in the fall. Without Congress, he's easily impeached for financial improprieties, ie without the Democrats getting into the abuse, rape, and possibly murder of young girls - which their own people seem to have also taken part in. After the election Dems will continue to support Israel just as Biden did through the first years of the Gaza genocide, but that too is irrelevant in Trump's calculus.
So the conditions to stop actually exist now, as both the main instigators face consequences: Netanyahu's group facing financial loss, and Trump facing political power loss (jail unfortunately not likely due to pardon). But US/Israeli practice of killing their negotiating partners burned the bridges very thoroughly now. Iran is basically in a position where they need to make this hurt as much as possible for both of the main instigators, before everyone runs low of ammunition, and the fighting reduces intensity to the rate of its production. Lots of wild cards in neighboring country activity (majority of Gulfie leaders hated as sellouts), how much China, Russia, etc do to help Iran. The Trump admin (+ Netanyahu) has left the US absolutely no moral or diplomatic cover whatsoever. It is plain to the world they are criminals of the worst kind.
Insightful summary. Economic sanctions also play a significant role in the 'regime change' formula.
Hugely significant role if you ask me.
I think it is 40yrs of American brutalism and sanctions backed by the Europeans.
What happened to Israel in your assessment of this assault? Iran is a country Israel has always perceived as a threat, and like always we do their bidding.
I am not sure what your comment is Fran.
We all know that NO reporters are allowed in Israel whilst war happens.....so how would I know.
Jenny, from the very beginning all our Middle Eastern wars were fought for Israel. Listen to Jeffery Sachs, who is one of the few to make that truth very clear. In Fighting Terrorism Netanyahu identifies those countries that have to go, because he wants to level the playing field and no one to thwart his agenda for a greater Israel. He has always talked about the threat Iran poses to Israel. Look into AIPAC and see how our elected officials operate according to a pro-Israeli agenda. Mearsheimer talks about this a lot. The US is bought. How do our elected officials stand up and applaud Netanyahu who at the time had his genocidal plans for Gaza already underway? Why does the US supply them weapons, to carry out their ungodly genocide? How does Adelson get a necklace hung around her neck by Trump? Well, she paid for a wish with 100 million to make SURE the West Bank, already in large part taken over by Israel, is 100 percent theirs. The Zionists want all of it. Of course we're making the doctor's wish come true, and we were accommodating them even before the 100 million was in Trump's pocket.
Yep good point! Economic blockade can align directly with the bribery -> coup d'etat line of action. Usually. But if the grip is too tight, harder to make the payoff, like how Russian oligarchs were quite corruptible when trading with the EU, but cutting them off actually reduced their value for power politics. More problematical now, is countries with land links to Russia or China can't be blockaded.
"Sanctions" are something we do to allies, in my observation. (Despite the rhetoric... you can't order you enemies to do something, you can only give orders to those who listen).
Epic Fury.............Epstein Fury?
From Europe: Not the best place to be right now.
Apparently/ reading between the lines the European vassals are now considering joining the USA against Iran.
How many US Bases do we have in Europe?
Sick spineless sycophant Europeans.
They have not figured out yet that the West (white) people have lost their brutal hold on the world.
...........and before I finish, I was brought up in a Colonial family in Sri Lanka. Smug/perspiring white people in the heat. All brown people were stupid and yet before the Dutch/Portuguese people arrived. Singhalese had build canals and 'tanks' to preserve water. They also understood high buildings attracted rain. All this was done whilst the European population were emerging from caves!
I think I agree that this war on Iran is "the most catastrophic" since 2003's attack on Iraq.
But Biden's decision to threaten Russia until Russia began its special military operation --
the war in Ukraine has been almost as catastrophic.
It would be funny if it weren’t so grim to see the Israeli apologists on Piers Morgan fly into a rage if anyone suggests AIPAC money has bought Congress and pro Zionists have bought Trump. We are not strategic allies — we’re dupes — but they’re determined and desperate to maintain the illusion this isn’t so.
Thanks for this bulwark of reality against a relentless tide of lies.
Another crude & clumsy display of wordplay from the master baiters & switchers of Trump & Co. to mask their vicious intent.
Was the mass killing of schoolchildren as a first act in this war deliberate?