He should stop calling him "Genocide Joe" because people who value their credibility and want to be taken seriously don't go around crying wolf about genocide. I like Aaron's journalism, and it's disappointing to see him saying things that aren't true in order to elicit an emotional reaction from his audience because that's what a propagandist does.
What's happening in Gaza is awful in its own right. There is no reason for Aaron to exaggerate and call it a genocide when it's not. Israel is obviously engaged in an ethnic cleansing campaign, but that isn't genocide. Israel wants the Palestinian population out of Gaza by any means necessary. Israel is indifferent to the fate of the Palestinians, they don't care if they get killed by their bombing or if they get resettled in another country. In any case, Israel seems willing to let the Palestinians leave.
Genocide is an intent-specific crime. It is a series of criminal acts "committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such." Genocide isn't just about killing and cruelty, its defining characteristic is the intent of its perpetrator.
The purpose of genocide is the destruction, not the displacement, of an ethnic or religious group. The Holocaust was a genocide. The Nazis didn't want to expel the Jews from the territory they controlled, they wanted to kill them. The Nazis weren't interested in expulsion, they were interested in extermination. The Nazi regime implemented a series of measures to stop the Jews from escaping before they could be killed. That's genocide, and it's not what's happening in Gaza.
Israel just wants the Palestinians gone and seems content to let them leave. If Israel's goal was genocide, they wouldn't be bombing northern Gaza and trying to force the population to move south towards the Egyptian border because they wouldn't want to risk letting the Palestinians escape into Egypt if the goal was to kill them all.
Genocide is, thankfully, a very rare event. What's happening in Gaza is the sort of destructive cruelty that we see in a lot of wars. It's horrific, but it isn't genocide. The reason why people are using the word "genocide" is because it has propaganda value and they're trying to manipulate you. I hope that's not Aaron, because he's usually very careful to be accurate. I hope he's using the word "genocide" because he simply misunderstands the concept of it.
It is by every definition indeed genocide. You cannot escape it. It is a fact. It is deliberate on the part of Israel. How can you make these excuses unless you support the Zionist occupiers? You are complicit in this crime if you do. You make me sick.
Read about international court decision... they were afraid t k use GENOCIDE, by only a few words. If you. Make a whole land uninhabitable, what is the right word! In any case,, Biden can’t win.
If you had bothered to read my post, you would have seen that I described Israel's behavior as "horrific," "cruel," "destructive," and "an ethnic cleansing campaign". I'm not defending what they're doing.
What I'm objecting to is Aaron's careless and inaccurate use of the word "genocide". The State Department accuses Russia of genocide in Ukraine. They accuse China of genocide in Xinjiang. They accuse the Serbs of genocide in the Balkans. They accused Gaddafi of genocide in Libya. They accuse Assad of genocide in Syria. They're always crying wolf about genocide because it has propaganda value. Do you think that enhances or undermines their credibility?
I pay to subscribe to Aaron's substack because I consider him trustworthy, and so it disappoints me to see him using the same disingenuous tactic as the State Department. If he's going to do it too, then how can he credibly object when they do it?
If you're going to accuse anybody of something as horrific as genocide, you need to have solid proof to support of your allegations. If you're going to throw around wild accusations like that, and you don't have rock solid evidence to support your claims, then I have to take that into account when I'm evaluating your credibility.
It's absolutely more accurate. What Israel is doing is ethnic cleansing, not genocide. Israel isn't trying to exterminate the Palestinian ethnic group per se (genocide), but they are trying to force them out of Gaza (ethnic cleansing).
If you ask me, the truth is horrible enough on its own. There's no need to embellish it; exaggeration only diminishes the credibility of the person speaking. I hate to see Aaron doing this because he's done so much good work.
Accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza is the same as accusing Russia of genocide in Ukraine. It's a lie, but people do it because the word "genocide" evokes strong emotions and carries a lot of propaganda value. It's disingenuous and it's a manipulation tactic.
He doesn't need to exaggerate in order to do that. Netanyahu a war criminal who is carrying out an ethnic cleansing campaign, and Joe Biden is enabling him. Isn't that a good enough reason to argue that neither one of them should be in office? Why exaggerate? Why accuse them of genocide?
Aaron is making the same mistake with Israel that Democrats make with Donald Trump. He's let himself get too emotionally invested in the Palestinian cause and I think it's undermined his objectivity.
Donald Trump is not above reproach. There are plenty of valid criticisms that one could make of him, but the Democrats can't seem to help themselves. They are overly emotional about Donald Trump and so they guild the lily and they accuse him of a bunch of stuff he isn't even guilty of and it's backfiring on them.
Because they've falsely accused Donald Trump of being a Russian stooge, a white supremacist, and inciting an insurrection, nobody believes anything they say about him. All they can do is preach to the choir. That's why being indicted on 91 felonies hasn't hurt him in the polls. If it changes anyone's feelings about him, it makes people sympathize with him. It totally undermines whatever legitimate criticism the Democrats could make against him.
The moral of this story is that accusing people of things they aren't guilty of in order to damage their reputation will backfire when people figure out what you're doing. Accusing Israel of genocide when Israel isn't committing genocide undermines the credibility of the people doing it and it undermines legitimate criticism of Israel.
He says the statements Finkelstein quotes Israeli officials making demonstrate "outright genocidal intent", but I disagree, and Finkelstein never uses the word "genocide" to describe any of those statements in his article.
In those statements I see a lot of callous indifference to the fate of Palestinian civilians, an obvious desire to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza, and a clear intention to annihilate Hamas regardless of the cost to the civilian population, but I don't see anyone saying that their purpose in doing any of that is to exterminate the Palestinian ethnic group as such.
The Biden Administration just handed the election to a Fascist (unless RFK Jr or Cornel West can take both off the map). Israel has--with US help and endorsements--been fighting this war against a people with no army since the end of WWII. Targeting civilians is all israel has ever done with control of land, air, and sea. I guess the "legitimate objective" is the same excuse white men in this country have used to murder Native Americans and Black people for hundreds of years.
Joe Biden and the Democrats ARE Fascists because they believe in the merger of corporate and government power. They don't believe in the Bill of Rights, either, just in case you haven't noticed.
Trump's not a Fascist. He's a narcissistic buffoon, but he didn't start any new wars or prosecute his political opponents for the four years he was in office. He didn't even lock Hillary up, and that would have been a beautiful thing, more's the pity he's such a carnival barker.
We have absolutely no reason to be more afraid of Trump than of Genocide Joe's White House of Horrors.
And yes, Israel is doing unto the Arabs in Gaza exactly what the white settlers did to others--only whitey never rounded up THAT many people into a huge concentration camp and then murdered that many women and children so quickly and efficiently. Over 11,000 or so in a MONTH? Even the Texas Rangers never managed that. Compared to the Israelis, American settlers were amateurs.
hiya, i read an interesting point about fascism- it means bound together, such as white people or Aryans sticking together, also from the word fascia meaning connective tissue holding bundles of nerves etc together.
From over the pond it looks like all your Presidents are puppets and the neocons are running the country. They put up with Trump to avoid Sanders?
A one party system in the UK too for sure, though the theatre of politics makes a good job of keeping us distracted.
"We have absolutely no reason to be more afraid of Trump than of Genocide Joe's White House of Horrors."
I have to disagree strongly with this sentence the main reason being he is totally mad. Not only this he is an indicted felon. I just don't understand how anyone with even half a brain could vote for him.
An indicted felon? LOL. The Democrats are CLEARLY prosecuting a political opponent in typical banana republic fashion. Trump has done nothing worse than the Bidens and Clintons have done, arguably less, and you expect me to trust our so-called justice system? If I don't, I'm stupid or mad?
That's laughingly funny, naive, and probably propagandized. Our justice system, right up to and including members of the Supreme Court, is corrupted in the same way all the rest of our established institutions are. Remember Citizens United? No reasonable American citizen can have faith in ANY of them. It's a situation typical of late-stage empires.
…I call this an extermination by a Hitler-esk dictator. Since the Palestinian People have no artillery, no Moabs, no place are they allowed to go (except Sinai) where then they are bombed to annihilation. How can this be called a war with these horrors forced upon them? This is at the very least barbarism and at worst, genocide. It is illegal by the Geneva Convention…yet the idiots of the corporate media continue to go along w/ the Biden admin parroting untruths and misinforming the Public without query.
I think your point RE Biden’s claim is really important - “I only trust Hamas to respond to pressure.” I am trying to find out more about the release of captives held by Hamas….but so far only one short clip, which suggested many things but certainly not a bad treatment…. It is strange….Gilbert Doctorow saying something similar…“the safe release of the hostages held by Hamas, and the obvious signs that all were in good health tells us something that no one is saying in major media”. Silence by the media is deafening. Everywhere we can see, if we have eyes, that a genocide in Gaza is going to continue, as is the support of Western Governments. I really hope that the Global South will get together to stop this slaughter.
In addition to Aaron's article, I also found Gilbert Doctorow's analysis helpful in understanding the situation as well as providing information not found elsewhere.
According to news reports, 'earlier in the week, Pope Francis denounced the unleashing of Israeli violence in Gaza, saying that “we have gone beyond wars. This is not war. This is terrorism.”'
This ceasefire must be extended and made permanent. Not under oppressive conditions, but as a place where all live with peace and equality. It is time for Pope Francis to do more than talk. He must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.
Thank you, Mr.Mate. Throughout history, empires have always acted the same--ruthlessly. Their leaders have often been idiots who can only envisage the brutal use of force. Justified by racism, and by the creation of an ersatz enemy danger.
The irony is that destruction of the Jewish state by Hamas would be deemed a second Shoah, but that does not mean that the Israeli state as it acts today is the last best hope for the Jewish people or that its existence is some kind of talismanic guarantee of the safety of global Jewry..
In fact quite the opposite: the barbaric attack on Gaza shows the violence to Jewish values being done by an Israeli regime led by theocrats and right wing authoritarians. The country’s democratic institutions continue to weaken,and warnjngs about Israeli expansion are validated insofar as they continue to lead to ongoing human right violations. Thus also weakens the rationale for Israel's very existence, as the cycle of violence gets worse.
"Anonymous US officials lent credibility to Israel’s claims, telling the New York Times that “they are confident that Hamas has used tunnel networks under hospitals, in particular Al Shifa, for command and control areas as well as for weapons storage.”
Kinda like the WMDs and Syrian gas the evidence vanishes once the crime is underway.
Miko Peled, the Israeli author and activist, had a great interview a month ago with Briahna Joy Gray. He said that calling for ceasefire is not enough, the demands should include stopping shipment of arms and money, imposing sanctions, recalling ambassadors, excluding the apartheid regime from atlhletic events, academic conferences, with goal of one democratic state in safety and peace.
This surely is a humanitarian crime, and eliminating an occupied people is a war crime as well, and the old fool - he was previously a younger fool - should be arrested, or mercifully, shut the hell up, somehow: he actually speaks of "eliminating" 2.2 million people who should have, as a matter of simple justice - a majority of UN members voted for it - their own sovereign state, and have as much right, individually, to live as he, and it could be argued more. Where are his keepers, who are more guilty even than he?
If this isn't Nazism, what is it? Mass insanity? Lawless, inhuman fascism? Those are the choices.
Israel and Washington share the goal of greater control and dominance of the Middle East and it is going to get worse rather than better. As far back as the1980's Israel has felt it needed a greater land mass for its survival as a nation and the presence of the Palestinians the immediate impediment. Netanyahu is 74 years old and time is running out for his Greater Israel agenda.
This Netanyahu is no better than Adolf Hitler was, as I have learnt from records of what happened around him during the World War from 1939 to 1945.
I also see that in the overall reporting of the war between Israel and Hamas, everything is held in the same manner as it is in the Ukraine war, namely that there is only one-sided and biased reporting.
With regard to Ukraine, only the entire actions of the Ukrainian army are publicised by the media, but not what is happening on the Russian side.
Similarly, in the Middle East, only Israel is reported on, but not the other side, which means that the media also takes sides here, and only in favour of Israel, which also rages much worse than the attackers.
I also saw how Israeli military personnel hid firearms etc. in a hospital, which they then allegedly found and had photographed by war journalists, with the untruthful claim that these weapons had been stored there by the other side.
And that atrocities were also committed by the Israeli army, as well as by the attackers, which you have observed together with me, so you know what is really happening.
And it continues to happen on a large scale, with the 'great leader' Netanyahu, as a paragon of Adolf Hitler, fuelling the whole thing in full hatred.
Please hit the three dots on the side of this clowns trolling comments and report him! Or join his alien life force organization if your into that. This jerk is spamming everywhere.
Also worth mentioning again the clear, lucid pronouncements of experts like Craig Mokhiber and Francesca Albanese who say that Israel is producing "a catastrophe of apocalyptic proportions."
There's lots of support for Palestine from Sinn Fein, the IRA were originally their 'paramilitary wing' who targeted civilians (me) on our way to work in 1991 in London and also in Brighton. There was never any talk of eliminating Sinn Fein by killing all Irish people. They knew they weren't going to go away and now they're in power.
The right wing nationalists also gaining power in India, which may put a spanner in BRICS. British colonization has a lot to answer for.
How can it be? Humanity has tolerated atrocities, crimes against humanity, censorship, wars, torture,
spying on us, lies/propaganda, ecocide, ethnocide, torture of Assange, etc. forever. Is it not clear that psychopaths/insane criminals rule the world?
Perhaps since this has been the case for centuries, no one notices. I see the bourgeois classes living their seemingly superficial, comfortable lives, celebrating Thanksgiving, attending sporting events, preferring to ignore geopolitics and things outside their bubbles, the poor struggling for their existence, and all living for the self.
Is it so difficult to see that who we are is Life, the animating spirit that we share with all living entities. We are in the form of human with our particular kind of consciousness, which allows us to be the only animal with the possibility of living ethically. Yet we don't. Instead we live their paradigm ("might makes right"). This has proven to be a grave error, an abomination, not using the gifts that we have been given and we are having to pay a steep price.
Hamas is a political party. Would the equivalent be someone trying to eliminate the Democrats or the Tories? Would that include people who support and voted for them?
Aaron - great reporting and the bonus - keep calling him genocide Joe. Thank you for bravery in not backing down. I so appreciate your posts.
He should stop calling him "Genocide Joe" because people who value their credibility and want to be taken seriously don't go around crying wolf about genocide. I like Aaron's journalism, and it's disappointing to see him saying things that aren't true in order to elicit an emotional reaction from his audience because that's what a propagandist does.
What's happening in Gaza is awful in its own right. There is no reason for Aaron to exaggerate and call it a genocide when it's not. Israel is obviously engaged in an ethnic cleansing campaign, but that isn't genocide. Israel wants the Palestinian population out of Gaza by any means necessary. Israel is indifferent to the fate of the Palestinians, they don't care if they get killed by their bombing or if they get resettled in another country. In any case, Israel seems willing to let the Palestinians leave.
Genocide is an intent-specific crime. It is a series of criminal acts "committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such." Genocide isn't just about killing and cruelty, its defining characteristic is the intent of its perpetrator.
The purpose of genocide is the destruction, not the displacement, of an ethnic or religious group. The Holocaust was a genocide. The Nazis didn't want to expel the Jews from the territory they controlled, they wanted to kill them. The Nazis weren't interested in expulsion, they were interested in extermination. The Nazi regime implemented a series of measures to stop the Jews from escaping before they could be killed. That's genocide, and it's not what's happening in Gaza.
Israel just wants the Palestinians gone and seems content to let them leave. If Israel's goal was genocide, they wouldn't be bombing northern Gaza and trying to force the population to move south towards the Egyptian border because they wouldn't want to risk letting the Palestinians escape into Egypt if the goal was to kill them all.
Genocide is, thankfully, a very rare event. What's happening in Gaza is the sort of destructive cruelty that we see in a lot of wars. It's horrific, but it isn't genocide. The reason why people are using the word "genocide" is because it has propaganda value and they're trying to manipulate you. I hope that's not Aaron, because he's usually very careful to be accurate. I hope he's using the word "genocide" because he simply misunderstands the concept of it.
It is by every definition indeed genocide. You cannot escape it. It is a fact. It is deliberate on the part of Israel. How can you make these excuses unless you support the Zionist occupiers? You are complicit in this crime if you do. You make me sick.
Read about international court decision... they were afraid t k use GENOCIDE, by only a few words. If you. Make a whole land uninhabitable, what is the right word! In any case,, Biden can’t win.
If you had bothered to read my post, you would have seen that I described Israel's behavior as "horrific," "cruel," "destructive," and "an ethnic cleansing campaign". I'm not defending what they're doing.
What I'm objecting to is Aaron's careless and inaccurate use of the word "genocide". The State Department accuses Russia of genocide in Ukraine. They accuse China of genocide in Xinjiang. They accuse the Serbs of genocide in the Balkans. They accused Gaddafi of genocide in Libya. They accuse Assad of genocide in Syria. They're always crying wolf about genocide because it has propaganda value. Do you think that enhances or undermines their credibility?
I pay to subscribe to Aaron's substack because I consider him trustworthy, and so it disappoints me to see him using the same disingenuous tactic as the State Department. If he's going to do it too, then how can he credibly object when they do it?
If you're going to accuse anybody of something as horrific as genocide, you need to have solid proof to support of your allegations. If you're going to throw around wild accusations like that, and you don't have rock solid evidence to support your claims, then I have to take that into account when I'm evaluating your credibility.
This is possibly more accurate
ethnic cleansing
/ˌɛθnɪk ˈklɛnzɪŋ/
noun
the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another.
It's absolutely more accurate. What Israel is doing is ethnic cleansing, not genocide. Israel isn't trying to exterminate the Palestinian ethnic group per se (genocide), but they are trying to force them out of Gaza (ethnic cleansing).
If you ask me, the truth is horrible enough on its own. There's no need to embellish it; exaggeration only diminishes the credibility of the person speaking. I hate to see Aaron doing this because he's done so much good work.
Accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza is the same as accusing Russia of genocide in Ukraine. It's a lie, but people do it because the word "genocide" evokes strong emotions and carries a lot of propaganda value. It's disingenuous and it's a manipulation tactic.
I think Aaron’s stance like many of us is ‘enough is enough’ Netanyahu must go
He doesn't need to exaggerate in order to do that. Netanyahu a war criminal who is carrying out an ethnic cleansing campaign, and Joe Biden is enabling him. Isn't that a good enough reason to argue that neither one of them should be in office? Why exaggerate? Why accuse them of genocide?
Aaron is making the same mistake with Israel that Democrats make with Donald Trump. He's let himself get too emotionally invested in the Palestinian cause and I think it's undermined his objectivity.
Donald Trump is not above reproach. There are plenty of valid criticisms that one could make of him, but the Democrats can't seem to help themselves. They are overly emotional about Donald Trump and so they guild the lily and they accuse him of a bunch of stuff he isn't even guilty of and it's backfiring on them.
Because they've falsely accused Donald Trump of being a Russian stooge, a white supremacist, and inciting an insurrection, nobody believes anything they say about him. All they can do is preach to the choir. That's why being indicted on 91 felonies hasn't hurt him in the polls. If it changes anyone's feelings about him, it makes people sympathize with him. It totally undermines whatever legitimate criticism the Democrats could make against him.
The moral of this story is that accusing people of things they aren't guilty of in order to damage their reputation will backfire when people figure out what you're doing. Accusing Israel of genocide when Israel isn't committing genocide undermines the credibility of the people doing it and it undermines legitimate criticism of Israel.
I understand your point but early on in the assault on Gaza Israeli officials made statements that were clearly calling for genocide.
Can you show me examples of such statements?
In his article, Aaron posted a link to:
https://normanfinkelstein.substack.com/p/fighting-amalek-in-gaza-what-israelis
He says the statements Finkelstein quotes Israeli officials making demonstrate "outright genocidal intent", but I disagree, and Finkelstein never uses the word "genocide" to describe any of those statements in his article.
In those statements I see a lot of callous indifference to the fate of Palestinian civilians, an obvious desire to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza, and a clear intention to annihilate Hamas regardless of the cost to the civilian population, but I don't see anyone saying that their purpose in doing any of that is to exterminate the Palestinian ethnic group as such.
The Biden Administration just handed the election to a Fascist (unless RFK Jr or Cornel West can take both off the map). Israel has--with US help and endorsements--been fighting this war against a people with no army since the end of WWII. Targeting civilians is all israel has ever done with control of land, air, and sea. I guess the "legitimate objective" is the same excuse white men in this country have used to murder Native Americans and Black people for hundreds of years.
Joe Biden and the Democrats ARE Fascists because they believe in the merger of corporate and government power. They don't believe in the Bill of Rights, either, just in case you haven't noticed.
Trump's not a Fascist. He's a narcissistic buffoon, but he didn't start any new wars or prosecute his political opponents for the four years he was in office. He didn't even lock Hillary up, and that would have been a beautiful thing, more's the pity he's such a carnival barker.
We have absolutely no reason to be more afraid of Trump than of Genocide Joe's White House of Horrors.
And yes, Israel is doing unto the Arabs in Gaza exactly what the white settlers did to others--only whitey never rounded up THAT many people into a huge concentration camp and then murdered that many women and children so quickly and efficiently. Over 11,000 or so in a MONTH? Even the Texas Rangers never managed that. Compared to the Israelis, American settlers were amateurs.
hiya, i read an interesting point about fascism- it means bound together, such as white people or Aryans sticking together, also from the word fascia meaning connective tissue holding bundles of nerves etc together.
From over the pond it looks like all your Presidents are puppets and the neocons are running the country. They put up with Trump to avoid Sanders?
A one party system in the UK too for sure, though the theatre of politics makes a good job of keeping us distracted.
"We have absolutely no reason to be more afraid of Trump than of Genocide Joe's White House of Horrors."
I have to disagree strongly with this sentence the main reason being he is totally mad. Not only this he is an indicted felon. I just don't understand how anyone with even half a brain could vote for him.
An indicted felon? LOL. The Democrats are CLEARLY prosecuting a political opponent in typical banana republic fashion. Trump has done nothing worse than the Bidens and Clintons have done, arguably less, and you expect me to trust our so-called justice system? If I don't, I'm stupid or mad?
That's laughingly funny, naive, and probably propagandized. Our justice system, right up to and including members of the Supreme Court, is corrupted in the same way all the rest of our established institutions are. Remember Citizens United? No reasonable American citizen can have faith in ANY of them. It's a situation typical of late-stage empires.
I agree with you to a certain extent about the Justice system.
Until Biden or anyone in the D. party is indicted I don't know for sure what any of them have done. Pure speculation at the moment.
I think it's further on than 'late stage empire' it seems it's the beginning of a Civil War?
…I call this an extermination by a Hitler-esk dictator. Since the Palestinian People have no artillery, no Moabs, no place are they allowed to go (except Sinai) where then they are bombed to annihilation. How can this be called a war with these horrors forced upon them? This is at the very least barbarism and at worst, genocide. It is illegal by the Geneva Convention…yet the idiots of the corporate media continue to go along w/ the Biden admin parroting untruths and misinforming the Public without query.
You really think Cornel West can win?
...Sry to butt in ... Butt, if you don't give Cornel your vote, how can he win? Just throwing that out there for you to ponder.
No, but I'll vote for him rather than Biden or Trump.
I'll vote for him too but can't go all out volunteering as I would have otherwise.
I think your point RE Biden’s claim is really important - “I only trust Hamas to respond to pressure.” I am trying to find out more about the release of captives held by Hamas….but so far only one short clip, which suggested many things but certainly not a bad treatment…. It is strange….Gilbert Doctorow saying something similar…“the safe release of the hostages held by Hamas, and the obvious signs that all were in good health tells us something that no one is saying in major media”. Silence by the media is deafening. Everywhere we can see, if we have eyes, that a genocide in Gaza is going to continue, as is the support of Western Governments. I really hope that the Global South will get together to stop this slaughter.
In addition to Aaron's article, I also found Gilbert Doctorow's analysis helpful in understanding the situation as well as providing information not found elsewhere.
According to news reports, 'earlier in the week, Pope Francis denounced the unleashing of Israeli violence in Gaza, saying that “we have gone beyond wars. This is not war. This is terrorism.”'
This ceasefire must be extended and made permanent. Not under oppressive conditions, but as a place where all live with peace and equality. It is time for Pope Francis to do more than talk. He must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.
Please sign the petition and share widely.
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This is one small thing we can do. If we can do more, let us do more.
Tell your friends, congregation, colleagues, and loved ones. Send a message directly to the Vatican.
Thank you, Mr.Mate. Throughout history, empires have always acted the same--ruthlessly. Their leaders have often been idiots who can only envisage the brutal use of force. Justified by racism, and by the creation of an ersatz enemy danger.
The irony is that destruction of the Jewish state by Hamas would be deemed a second Shoah, but that does not mean that the Israeli state as it acts today is the last best hope for the Jewish people or that its existence is some kind of talismanic guarantee of the safety of global Jewry..
In fact quite the opposite: the barbaric attack on Gaza shows the violence to Jewish values being done by an Israeli regime led by theocrats and right wing authoritarians. The country’s democratic institutions continue to weaken,and warnjngs about Israeli expansion are validated insofar as they continue to lead to ongoing human right violations. Thus also weakens the rationale for Israel's very existence, as the cycle of violence gets worse.
"Anonymous US officials lent credibility to Israel’s claims, telling the New York Times that “they are confident that Hamas has used tunnel networks under hospitals, in particular Al Shifa, for command and control areas as well as for weapons storage.”
Kinda like the WMDs and Syrian gas the evidence vanishes once the crime is underway.
Miko Peled, the Israeli author and activist, had a great interview a month ago with Briahna Joy Gray. He said that calling for ceasefire is not enough, the demands should include stopping shipment of arms and money, imposing sanctions, recalling ambassadors, excluding the apartheid regime from atlhletic events, academic conferences, with goal of one democratic state in safety and peace.
This surely is a humanitarian crime, and eliminating an occupied people is a war crime as well, and the old fool - he was previously a younger fool - should be arrested, or mercifully, shut the hell up, somehow: he actually speaks of "eliminating" 2.2 million people who should have, as a matter of simple justice - a majority of UN members voted for it - their own sovereign state, and have as much right, individually, to live as he, and it could be argued more. Where are his keepers, who are more guilty even than he?
If this isn't Nazism, what is it? Mass insanity? Lawless, inhuman fascism? Those are the choices.
Israel and Washington share the goal of greater control and dominance of the Middle East and it is going to get worse rather than better. As far back as the1980's Israel has felt it needed a greater land mass for its survival as a nation and the presence of the Palestinians the immediate impediment. Netanyahu is 74 years old and time is running out for his Greater Israel agenda.
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The Plejaren extraterrestrial Quetzal
Quetzal:
This Netanyahu is no better than Adolf Hitler was, as I have learnt from records of what happened around him during the World War from 1939 to 1945.
I also see that in the overall reporting of the war between Israel and Hamas, everything is held in the same manner as it is in the Ukraine war, namely that there is only one-sided and biased reporting.
With regard to Ukraine, only the entire actions of the Ukrainian army are publicised by the media, but not what is happening on the Russian side.
Similarly, in the Middle East, only Israel is reported on, but not the other side, which means that the media also takes sides here, and only in favour of Israel, which also rages much worse than the attackers.
I also saw how Israeli military personnel hid firearms etc. in a hospital, which they then allegedly found and had photographed by war journalists, with the untruthful claim that these weapons had been stored there by the other side.
And that atrocities were also committed by the Israeli army, as well as by the attackers, which you have observed together with me, so you know what is really happening.
And it continues to happen on a large scale, with the 'great leader' Netanyahu, as a paragon of Adolf Hitler, fuelling the whole thing in full hatred.
That is what corresponds to the truth.
https://www.figu.org/ch/
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Site_News
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_870
Please hit the three dots on the side of this clowns trolling comments and report him! Or join his alien life force organization if your into that. This jerk is spamming everywhere.
Also worth mentioning again the clear, lucid pronouncements of experts like Craig Mokhiber and Francesca Albanese who say that Israel is producing "a catastrophe of apocalyptic proportions."
Legitimate objective. Sounds like something Himmler would have said about the SS in Warsaw in 1943.
There's lots of support for Palestine from Sinn Fein, the IRA were originally their 'paramilitary wing' who targeted civilians (me) on our way to work in 1991 in London and also in Brighton. There was never any talk of eliminating Sinn Fein by killing all Irish people. They knew they weren't going to go away and now they're in power.
The right wing nationalists also gaining power in India, which may put a spanner in BRICS. British colonization has a lot to answer for.
How Can It Be?
How can it be? Humanity has tolerated atrocities, crimes against humanity, censorship, wars, torture,
spying on us, lies/propaganda, ecocide, ethnocide, torture of Assange, etc. forever. Is it not clear that psychopaths/insane criminals rule the world?
Perhaps since this has been the case for centuries, no one notices. I see the bourgeois classes living their seemingly superficial, comfortable lives, celebrating Thanksgiving, attending sporting events, preferring to ignore geopolitics and things outside their bubbles, the poor struggling for their existence, and all living for the self.
Is it so difficult to see that who we are is Life, the animating spirit that we share with all living entities. We are in the form of human with our particular kind of consciousness, which allows us to be the only animal with the possibility of living ethically. Yet we don't. Instead we live their paradigm ("might makes right"). This has proven to be a grave error, an abomination, not using the gifts that we have been given and we are having to pay a steep price.
Hamas is a political party. Would the equivalent be someone trying to eliminate the Democrats or the Tories? Would that include people who support and voted for them?