The flip-flop of Ilhan Omar is stunning. I wonder how these people can live with themselves, but I wonder even more why rank and file Democrats don't see through the obvious lies and hypocrisy at this point. But the weird obsession with hating Russia is only second to the bizarre fixation on hating Trump, some sort of psychological issue I can't fully understand.
I'm not saying people should never call out something potentially evil as a severe threat...but risking an unnecessary nuclear war over an obsession against a singular enemy? When we can point to a number of regimes that are belligerent and oppressive round the world? I honestly don't get it.
“…the weird obsession with hating Russia is only second to the bizarre fixation on hating Trump, some sort of psychological issue I can't fully understand.”
Isn’t it just Pavlovian psychology. Hearing Trump called a Putin puppet or otherwise associated with Russia enough times permanently conditioned Democrats to salivate (or make the target response). I’m sure the commander of that particular psyop can tell you exactly how many times the association between Trump and Russia had to be performed to achieve the desired autonomic response.
Never heard the comparison you made very clear between the democrat's vilification of Trump and now Russia. Everything is perceived solely in black and white terms, an absolutist perspective which keeps people from seeing life the way it really is, complex, uncertain, and always changing. . Maybe Mate could offset some of that since any reference to Trump is invariably negative and not a critical word for the president who pushed a coup in Ukraine using the primary force behind it, neo-nazi's in 2014. Interesting we come out of an era that vilified Trump and many dismissed him using this disturbed psychological thinking. I always thought that many on the left and the mainstream media encouraged this kind of one sided perspective on Trump as did the democrats , so they assisted in having the public view the world in the same simplistic, and sick terms. Not of course forgetting they linked Trump to Russia for four years. Thanks Stephanie.
Gene, I've heard you say this before and I'm sure there were some, and maybe quite a few who didn't want a Trump win, and don't want it now, but it was the democrats who pushed Russia-gate and tried to remove him from office repeatedly. Insurrection, no, a riot. Heard his whole speech and he said go in peace and he had nothing to gain from a riot. Remember there were 145, or so republican congressmen and 6 senators that were going to go over the results of 6 states, so why would he interfere with that happening? Well, Bush certainly doesn't like Trump, and personally I can't stand Bush Baby, but the "artist" is or maybe never was calling the shots. Cheney was. Listen to Sachs. He's right on target. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmOePNsNFw0&ab_channel=DemocracyNow%21
Democrats believe that Russia stole the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton. They believe that Vladimir Putin installed Donald Trump in the White House.
In 2018, 66% of Democrats believed that Russia had tampered with the vote tallies to get Trump elected.
That's what all of this is about. Democrats have a pathological hatred of Russia because they have a pathological hatred of Donald Trump. In their minds, Hillary Clinton didn't lose the election because she was a bad candidate, she lost because the election was rigged and stolen from her by Vladimir Putin.
Democrats see the war in Ukraine as their opportunity for revenge. In their minds, this war is an opportunity to get back at Vladimir Putin for installing Donald Trump in the White House.
Conflict between the United States and Russia is pushing the world to the brink of nuclear war, and the Democrats know it, but they don't care. Joe Biden says we face "the prospect of Armageddon" for the first time "since Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis" because of the war in Ukraine. Leon Panetta says that "Some intelligence analysts now believe that the probability of the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine has risen from 1-5 percent at the start of the war to 20-25 percent today."
Ukraine is 4,000 miles away from the United States, and in 2019, U.S. trade with Ukraine only accounted for 0.02% of our Gross Domestic Product. A war with Russia over Ukraine is not worth the risk that it entails. It doesn't make any difference to the day-to-day life of anyone in the United States who controls Crimea and the Donbass.
But as I said before, Democrats support for the Ukraine war isn't based on rational criteria, it's motivated solely by their hatred of Donald Trump. Hatred isn't rational and that's why they're willing to risk a nuclear war.
In 1957 Martin Luther King observed that hatred and irrationality go hand in hand. He said:
"There's another reason why you should love your enemies, and that is because hate distorts the personality of the hater. We usually think of what hate does for the individual hated or the individuals hated or the groups hated. But it is even more tragic, it is even more ruinous and injurious to the individual who hates. You just begin hating somebody, and you will begin to do irrational things.
"You can't see straight when you hate. You can't walk straight when you hate. You can't stand upright. Your vision is distorted. There is nothing more tragic than to see an individual whose heart is filled with hate. He comes to the point that he becomes a pathological case. For the person who hates, you can stand up and see a person and that person can be beautiful, and you will call them ugly.
"For the person who hates, the beautiful becomes ugly and the ugly becomes beautiful. For the person who hates, the good becomes bad and the bad becomes good. For the person who hates, the true becomes false and the false becomes true. That's what hate does. You can't see right. The symbol of objectivity is lost. Hate destroys the very structure of the personality of the hater."
I don't agree that the democrats see the war in Ukraine as an opportunity for revenge against Trump, but just a neocon plan to extend American power world wide, and Russia is their main target, but China is also on their hit list, and sending almost 2 billion to Taiwan and a previous visit by Pelosi says it all. Nancy Pelosi working on the intel committee in 2003 said she was informed Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, so she didn't vote for the war, but she never thought to inform Joe who was Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and highly influenced his fellow democrats to vote for the war.
Sachs really explains the neocon agenda well. Link below.
Last night disgusted with the electoral results I posted something akin to what you are saying. Trump is accused of saying the election in 2020 was stolen, and it may have been, but no independent government investigation was done to determine if it was, and it should have been. Okay, but we do know that Trump won in 2016, but for four years the democrats repeatedly claimed Trump was not a legitimate president. Jimmy Carter in 2016 said that in his view Trump lost the 2016 election and was put in office by the Russians, a claim made repeatedly, especially by Clinton. Biden in 2019 gave his total support to a woman who claimed to be suffering from Trump derangement syndrome, a bad case of it too, and claimed Trump wasn't legitimate, Biden totally agreed. All of it was a lie perpetrated by Clinton and her deep state allies, but nothing came of all that. The mainstream media and the left helped them push the idea that he was an invalid president, therefore deserving of no respect, and some even called for his death, like Robert DeNiro, and Snoop Dogg , just to name two, and I remember Rosy O'donnell wanted to push him off a cliff. Of course it ends with the accusation that Trump told his mega supporters to topple the government, and just forgot to tell them to bring guns, They can negate the legitimacy of his 2016 presidential win and continue to do so, but no one is held accountable, and no one dare question the Biden win. I really feel we should make many changes and secure our elections, and electoral results. Right now I have little faith in them.
I was responding to Stephanie's question: "I wonder even more why rank and file Democrats don't see through the obvious lies and hypocrisy at this point?"
And my answer is that it's because they hate Donald Trump. They hate Russia because they blame Russia for Donald Trump. That's what motivates rank and file Democrats.
The Democratic party leadership is another kettle of fish. They're totally captured by the military industrial complex just like the Republican party leadership is. At the end of the day they all answer to the same set of oligarchs. Even if there had been a red Republican wave, probably nothing would have changed with regard to our posture on Ukraine.
I think Ukraine is a very critical issue that people seem to be dismissing, and putting out of their mind. Unfortunately your right, neither party is talking about the resolution of this war. Too bad Eisenhower who warned us to beware the military industrial complex escalated the tensions between the US and Russia. Look up the neocon agenda, Sachs really explains it well, and you'll know why we're in Russia. Your right the 1%, have some 40 percent of the countries wealth and their policy agenda is first on the list of the people we elect into office.
Now, pretend that The Squad were calling for Medicare For All or similar. The Team D leadership would simply ignore them.
Instead, the so-called progressives were forced to abase themselves publicly in a ritual reminiscent of a Cultural Revolution self-criticism struggle session.
This shows what really matters to the Team D leadership.
Not even a self-criticism. They have accused a staffer, who supposedly released it without their knowledge. I really like this expression: “a ritual reminiscent of a Cultural Revolution self-criticism”.
Same comment I left under Taibbi's article: In 2003, I was a gay pussy because I opposed the war in Iraq. In 2022, I'm an anti-gay sexist because I oppose blank checks for Ukraine. Time is a flat circle.
In all seriousness though, if there is one thing the military industrial complex has mastered, it is the art of knowing which way the cultural winds are blowing, then aligning their policies of endless imperialist war with whatever the prevailing cultural flavor-of-the-month is. If Americans reject wokeism writ large, and elect somebody like Ron DeSantis, the military industrial complex will revert immediately to Bush era racist gingoism in order to justify endless war. There is no real ideology behind it, it's just business. In the meantime, though, it is fun to laugh at Jamie Raskin's "woke hawk" routine. Pure comedy.
As I mentioned above perhaps the difference between the anti-war movement in 2003, which I was also a part of, didn't bring the kind of negative rhetoric we see now in reference to Russia if one is understanding of Russia's position. We have become a culture who has been indoctrinated to think in black and white terms, certainly true during the Trump years. Trump is no good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The democrats tied him to Russia, and so killed two birds with one stone, and many, especially the so called elites, bought it. We, the public, and our willingness to go along with bullshit are also to blame, and so are those so called lefties who picked up the democrat's mantra, Trump no good, and it was that god awful Russia who gave him to us. They hooked him up to Russia from day one. All BS but talking to people one would never know, since truth hasn't reached them, and no once has made a concerted effort to see that it has.
Yep. BOLD PREDICTION: Democrats will eventually start to embrace Reagan era "Tough on Crime" authoritarianism as a response to Trump's unequivocally good criminal justice reforms. I truly believe most Democrats are that motivated to stick it to Trump.
It is interesting and disappointing to see how long the corporate media and politicians can maintain false narratives, such as everything to do with this conflict boiling down to Putin being a crazy imperialist.
You would think getting this close to the brink of nuclear confrontation would attract more attention to the situation and investigation of things like the Nuland coup in 2014, the shelling and killing of thousands of ethnic Russian civilians in eastern Ukraine, the US biolabs built across the Ukraine (which we now understand pose a threat to a lot more than just Russians), and the major Ukrainian troop movements immediately prior to Russia's invasion.
The stakes are so high, and nothing can be discussed because Putin man bad. The institutional failure of media in particular is on full display. And watching progressive politicians so quickly abandon resistance against this war is an example of how thoroughly representative government is being dismantled.
• This is a group that pretends to speak for Jews. In reality, it's just another banal, standard Dem Party/liberal activist group whose core function is to exploit these causes to agitate for censorship of anyone who questions liberal establishment orthodoxy.
It's the Jewish @HRC
ADL: “Today, we are joining dozens of other groups to ask advertisers to pause Twitter spending because we are profoundly concerned about antisemitism and hate on the platform. Here's why we're asking advertisers to #StopHateForProfit and #StopToxicTwitter -- https://stophateforprofit.org/statement-calling-on-advertisers”
• The scam is to scare corporations by knowing they'll be accused of anti-Semitism unless they bow to ADL's dictates about what ideas and people they can and can't associate with, just as @HRC exploits reckless homophobia accusations to coerce obedience. It's pro-DNC censorship.
• (re-tweet): AOC is a deeply unserious person
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says Elon Musk is sabotaging her Twitter account
• Joy Reid's understanding of history really does begin in 2017. As sketchy as that understanding is, she has no idea that history existed before Trump. The ignorance is stunning. How can someone like this be on TV every night talking about politics, even to a tiny audience?
• In 1974, "President Ford plunged headfirst into the crisis. His first and most public move was to combat inflation. He declared inflation 'public enemy number one.'"
Ford's brand was "WIN: Whip Inflation Now."
How the fuck does Joy Reid know nothing about everything???
• This little dunce - who wouldn't sacrifice for a cause if he lived to be 1,000 - thinks the Kremlin told Snowden to re-tweet a WashPost reporter's mention of a George Will column lightly critiquing Kamala Harris.
• How do these people mock QAnon when they're as conspiratorial?
Aaron Rupar @atrupar: “it really isn't when you realize that Snowden's entire purpose right now is using his platform to advance the Russian government's interests -- hurting the Democratic Party and thereby helping Republicans win office, which ultimately will undermine the US's support for Ukraine twitter.com/_GreatDelusion…”
• But that tweet does express one of the core views of Democratic partisans in media. It's really how they think now.
If you criticize the Dem Party or its leaders then, by definition, you're doing the work of the Kremlin. All critics of Biden are, by definition, Putin stooges.
• Sometimes, parts of our politics become so insane and unhinged for so long that one forgets how demented they are. Starting in 2017, it became completely standard for Dem politicians and DNC media stars to accuse all critics of being Kremlin assets:
Michael Tracey @mtracey:
Congressman Can't Answer Simple Question About His Own Bill, So Accuses Me of Working for the Russian Government
• The primary tactic of American liberalism (Dem Party version) is to police and control the flow of information online by silencing, de-platforming, excluding and otherwise punishing anyone who questions of dissents from their pieties and decrees of Truth and Falsity.
Elon Musk @elonmusk: “Twitter has had a massive drop in revenue, due to activist groups pressuring advertisers, even though nothing has changed with content moderation and we did everything we could to appease the activists.
Extremely messed up! They’re trying to destroy free speech in America.
• The lesson Democrats (and their US Security State partners) derived from their humiliating 2016 loss was that the preservation and expansion of their power requires tight control over the internet.
Corporate power (through advertising pressure) is one of their primary tools.
• This is why *the overwhelming majority* of Democrats support **state control** of information online in the name of fighting "disinformation."
In other words, if Big Tech won't capitulate to their censorship demands, Dems want political leaders to mandate that censorship.
• I spoke last night on Fox about a woefully under-covered story: The EU made it *illegal* for any platform to air RT or other Russian media. Now France is demanding US platforms, such as Rumble, obey this and remove RT. Rumble refused, defending its right to air what it wants
Democrats have handed what antiwar vote there is to the Republicans. In Ohio, Vance pulled ahead and stayed there after Ryan said nuclear war could be prepared for and managed by the Very Intelligent People in the Biden Administration.
Vance said that nuclear war was a thing to be avoided because he didn't want to see his family or other Ohio families die.
It is probably futile to make this point, but it is exactly the same type of cognitive bias that has so many susceptible to the MSM war propaganda while so many others gullibly accept the lie that the 2020 election was stolen.
Exactly as expected. The "self-licking ice cream" of Afghanistan was hastily abandoned because the new one - 10 times bigger - in Ukraine was just being prepared. It is beyond ridiculous to even talk about members of congress as any sort of decision makers here, MIC is going to milk this (read: mostly US tax payers) until the bitter and inevitable end. It is clear that after 6 month of conflict that Ukraine lost independent ability to pursue this war. Not only are they dependent completely on military aid and logistics to keep their troops fighting, their economy is already ruined, and budget needs 3 billions per month to just keep afloat. If the annual outlay to keep the war going is upward of 50 billion, a nice chunk of that will find its way back to various contractors, arms suppliers, think-tanks, consultants and array of similar bottom feeders with vital interests in prolonging the war. Not to even mention the Ukrainian side, the level of corruption there is on epic scale.
Do you really think we left Afghanistan to move on to bigger things, like Ukraine which you say was a new face? No it wasn't. In 2014 the Obama administration backed neo-nazis to bring down a pro Russian government. Just look at the way democrats behaved after a Trump win, like it was imperative to oust him from office, for many reasons, and perhaps the most significant was to move on with their Ukraine agenda. That sounds more likely to me. All that hate about Russia and how they got Trump elected kept the hate going. Well, I see that now as a significant possibility. If Clinton had won she would have picked up Obama's gauntlet I'm sure. Oh, Obama didn't want to send weapons to Russia, probably left that one up to Clinton after her win, like the war in Libya that is always associated with her during his administration. No question she would have sent them., as did Trump. I wonder if he would not have been so compliant in this regard if the democrats were not continuously aligning him to Russia, and any refusal would have substantiated their claims. I always keep in mind the Deep State's involvement.
Leftist intellectual Noam Chomsky asserted during a recent interview that there is only “one western statesman of stature” pushing to end the war in Ukraine – Donald Trump.
The professor of linguistics made the remarks in a recent interview, a clip of which was posted to Twitter by journalist Glenn Greenwald.
“Well there is, fortunately, one statesman in the United States and Europe…who has made a very sensible statement about how you can solve the crisis, namely by facilitating negotiations instead of undermining them and moving towards establishing some kind of accommodation in Europe,” said Chomsky.
The author went on to describe a plan first introduced by George H.W. Bush – Partnership for Peace – which would guarantee that NATO would not expand further eastwards and “move towards a world with no military alliances.”
Chomsky that the only prominent person advocating a “move towards negotiations and diplomacy instead of escalating the war” was “Donald J. Trump.”
Interesting that Trump, for advocating negotiations to end the war, is being hailed as a statesman by very aged old-timer Chomsky, when his tearing up agreements with Russia and sending heavy weaponry to Ukraine helped to set the stage for the war. Chomsky, remember, advocated that vaxx-resisters be confined to their homes where they could starve to death. No one over age 78 should ever be listened to (Brandon's age when he was (s)elected).
Well, I think the stage was set for the possibility of war when the US participated in the Ukrainian coup in 2014 using the force of the neo-nazis in that country to made it happen and oust the pro-Russian Yanukovych. Obama put Biden in charge of the most corrupt country in Europe and he certainly used that to his son's advantage. I find it interesting that Trump's win bought almost four years of accusations from democrats that the Russians well, put in office. LIES! His get along with Russia position, as well as his visit was met with much criticism from the democrats and the mainstream press which became the democrat's whores. Trump also didn't come across as a big NATO guy, and no wars. Biden of course is another story, since he pushed all our middle eastern wars. and encouraged his fellow democrats to do so as well, and I just cant see the neocons backing Trump, or his willingness to follow their agenda. Nuland and Blinken and other neocons weren't part of Trump's team, but now they are part of Biden's. Hear how the neocons flocked to the democrats during the Trump years, including the CIA? Biden, chooses Nuland to be in his state department like Obama did, and he has Blinken and other neocons. Remember Trump wanted to get along with Russia? I have no question that Biden wanted this war as did his neocon pals and they got what they wanted.
Okay he escalated Obama's war in Yemen and Syria, not sure about Afghanistan but lets remember who initiated all of these wars. Not Trump. I saw an interesting TV clip and most had left the circle of politicians leaving Trump and some reporters behind. He spoke of our stupid wars, that killed millions, cost, millions and once again he called them stupid. There are any number of Trump policies I do not like, like his sanctions on Venezuela, and Iran, and breaking the Iran deal. We could go on, and on, as you could with many presidents. I hated the democrats loathsome, self righteous, manner that defined his base as deplorables, and pushed lies to remove him from office. During his four years in office the press lost most if not all sense of objectivity, and they were in short supply before Trump. Many of the so called left also lost their sensible left wing position and became democrats.
Fran, I'm mostly in agreement with you on Mr. Trump. I voted for him twice. But Trump the candidate was very different from Trump as president. I know that the press gave him a terrible time and treated him unfairly, but he should have done a better job of standing up for his supporters against the Deep State democrats as well as the GOP's RINOS. He knuckled under to them every time he faced a difficult decision. Pompeo and Bolton were equally as terrible as Nuland and Blinken. I'd actually vote for Trump again if he was nominated in 2024, but, at his advanced age, I think there are better candidates.
I understand how you feel and I do hope someone like Desantis runs. It feels easier that way. No baggage. Can't imagine if Trump did win we wouldn't have a repeat performance. I don't think he was in a position to stand against the many forces that wanted to oust him from power, which includes the Deep State, and some in the GOP and of course the democrats and the media, including the left. He also didn't have the political background to help him contend with all that confronted his presidency. I don't know why he chose either one of those two beauties, that is Bolton and Pompeo. Maybe to say to the democrats, hawks, warmongers, see, I'm the same as you.
Chomsky wasn't hailing Trump as a statesman, rather pointing out just how degraded our political culture has become that only someone like Trump is saying this.
Dennis Kucinich has made the same call for diplomacy, but from a place of genuine integrity.
Your prejudice, and no doubt hatred of Trump is obviously affecting your interpretation of what he said. I heard Trump say things in this regard myself. I like Dennis Kucinich, saw him speak several times in person, Once a sane anti-war head in a party that has lost all manner of standards they once held, well, held many decades ago.
I'd give Mate's summary a 10/10. I think I agree 100%, just do not have all the citations/references to substantiate the points. Mate's seems like the journalist-type to have the "proof" that skeptics always ask for.
Now if only a DC politician would read this article !
When I listened to that clip from some D Team propagandist named Jason Crow it immediately dawned on me. Every time he used the name Putin he should have substituted the name Biden, and he would have been correct. The problem with the BIG LIE is that far too many semi-literate gullible people believe it.
Thank you. And a mystery — if our beloved US is basically a bipartisan fascist non-democracy - why is it fashionable for GOP RINOs to call fascist Democrats — communists (?!) and “left” (?!) ?
The flip-flop of Ilhan Omar is stunning. I wonder how these people can live with themselves, but I wonder even more why rank and file Democrats don't see through the obvious lies and hypocrisy at this point. But the weird obsession with hating Russia is only second to the bizarre fixation on hating Trump, some sort of psychological issue I can't fully understand.
I'm not saying people should never call out something potentially evil as a severe threat...but risking an unnecessary nuclear war over an obsession against a singular enemy? When we can point to a number of regimes that are belligerent and oppressive round the world? I honestly don't get it.
“…the weird obsession with hating Russia is only second to the bizarre fixation on hating Trump, some sort of psychological issue I can't fully understand.”
Isn’t it just Pavlovian psychology. Hearing Trump called a Putin puppet or otherwise associated with Russia enough times permanently conditioned Democrats to salivate (or make the target response). I’m sure the commander of that particular psyop can tell you exactly how many times the association between Trump and Russia had to be performed to achieve the desired autonomic response.
Never heard the comparison you made very clear between the democrat's vilification of Trump and now Russia. Everything is perceived solely in black and white terms, an absolutist perspective which keeps people from seeing life the way it really is, complex, uncertain, and always changing. . Maybe Mate could offset some of that since any reference to Trump is invariably negative and not a critical word for the president who pushed a coup in Ukraine using the primary force behind it, neo-nazi's in 2014. Interesting we come out of an era that vilified Trump and many dismissed him using this disturbed psychological thinking. I always thought that many on the left and the mainstream media encouraged this kind of one sided perspective on Trump as did the democrats , so they assisted in having the public view the world in the same simplistic, and sick terms. Not of course forgetting they linked Trump to Russia for four years. Thanks Stephanie.
Gene, I've heard you say this before and I'm sure there were some, and maybe quite a few who didn't want a Trump win, and don't want it now, but it was the democrats who pushed Russia-gate and tried to remove him from office repeatedly. Insurrection, no, a riot. Heard his whole speech and he said go in peace and he had nothing to gain from a riot. Remember there were 145, or so republican congressmen and 6 senators that were going to go over the results of 6 states, so why would he interfere with that happening? Well, Bush certainly doesn't like Trump, and personally I can't stand Bush Baby, but the "artist" is or maybe never was calling the shots. Cheney was. Listen to Sachs. He's right on target. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmOePNsNFw0&ab_channel=DemocracyNow%21
Democrats believe that Russia stole the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton. They believe that Vladimir Putin installed Donald Trump in the White House.
In 2018, 66% of Democrats believed that Russia had tampered with the vote tallies to get Trump elected.
Source: https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/03/09/russias-impact-election-seen-through-partisan-eyes
That's what all of this is about. Democrats have a pathological hatred of Russia because they have a pathological hatred of Donald Trump. In their minds, Hillary Clinton didn't lose the election because she was a bad candidate, she lost because the election was rigged and stolen from her by Vladimir Putin.
Democrats see the war in Ukraine as their opportunity for revenge. In their minds, this war is an opportunity to get back at Vladimir Putin for installing Donald Trump in the White House.
Conflict between the United States and Russia is pushing the world to the brink of nuclear war, and the Democrats know it, but they don't care. Joe Biden says we face "the prospect of Armageddon" for the first time "since Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis" because of the war in Ukraine. Leon Panetta says that "Some intelligence analysts now believe that the probability of the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine has risen from 1-5 percent at the start of the war to 20-25 percent today."
Ukraine is 4,000 miles away from the United States, and in 2019, U.S. trade with Ukraine only accounted for 0.02% of our Gross Domestic Product. A war with Russia over Ukraine is not worth the risk that it entails. It doesn't make any difference to the day-to-day life of anyone in the United States who controls Crimea and the Donbass.
But as I said before, Democrats support for the Ukraine war isn't based on rational criteria, it's motivated solely by their hatred of Donald Trump. Hatred isn't rational and that's why they're willing to risk a nuclear war.
In 1957 Martin Luther King observed that hatred and irrationality go hand in hand. He said:
"There's another reason why you should love your enemies, and that is because hate distorts the personality of the hater. We usually think of what hate does for the individual hated or the individuals hated or the groups hated. But it is even more tragic, it is even more ruinous and injurious to the individual who hates. You just begin hating somebody, and you will begin to do irrational things.
"You can't see straight when you hate. You can't walk straight when you hate. You can't stand upright. Your vision is distorted. There is nothing more tragic than to see an individual whose heart is filled with hate. He comes to the point that he becomes a pathological case. For the person who hates, you can stand up and see a person and that person can be beautiful, and you will call them ugly.
"For the person who hates, the beautiful becomes ugly and the ugly becomes beautiful. For the person who hates, the good becomes bad and the bad becomes good. For the person who hates, the true becomes false and the false becomes true. That's what hate does. You can't see right. The symbol of objectivity is lost. Hate destroys the very structure of the personality of the hater."
I don't agree that the democrats see the war in Ukraine as an opportunity for revenge against Trump, but just a neocon plan to extend American power world wide, and Russia is their main target, but China is also on their hit list, and sending almost 2 billion to Taiwan and a previous visit by Pelosi says it all. Nancy Pelosi working on the intel committee in 2003 said she was informed Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, so she didn't vote for the war, but she never thought to inform Joe who was Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and highly influenced his fellow democrats to vote for the war.
Sachs really explains the neocon agenda well. Link below.
Last night disgusted with the electoral results I posted something akin to what you are saying. Trump is accused of saying the election in 2020 was stolen, and it may have been, but no independent government investigation was done to determine if it was, and it should have been. Okay, but we do know that Trump won in 2016, but for four years the democrats repeatedly claimed Trump was not a legitimate president. Jimmy Carter in 2016 said that in his view Trump lost the 2016 election and was put in office by the Russians, a claim made repeatedly, especially by Clinton. Biden in 2019 gave his total support to a woman who claimed to be suffering from Trump derangement syndrome, a bad case of it too, and claimed Trump wasn't legitimate, Biden totally agreed. All of it was a lie perpetrated by Clinton and her deep state allies, but nothing came of all that. The mainstream media and the left helped them push the idea that he was an invalid president, therefore deserving of no respect, and some even called for his death, like Robert DeNiro, and Snoop Dogg , just to name two, and I remember Rosy O'donnell wanted to push him off a cliff. Of course it ends with the accusation that Trump told his mega supporters to topple the government, and just forgot to tell them to bring guns, They can negate the legitimacy of his 2016 presidential win and continue to do so, but no one is held accountable, and no one dare question the Biden win. I really feel we should make many changes and secure our elections, and electoral results. Right now I have little faith in them.
I was responding to Stephanie's question: "I wonder even more why rank and file Democrats don't see through the obvious lies and hypocrisy at this point?"
And my answer is that it's because they hate Donald Trump. They hate Russia because they blame Russia for Donald Trump. That's what motivates rank and file Democrats.
The Democratic party leadership is another kettle of fish. They're totally captured by the military industrial complex just like the Republican party leadership is. At the end of the day they all answer to the same set of oligarchs. Even if there had been a red Republican wave, probably nothing would have changed with regard to our posture on Ukraine.
I think Ukraine is a very critical issue that people seem to be dismissing, and putting out of their mind. Unfortunately your right, neither party is talking about the resolution of this war. Too bad Eisenhower who warned us to beware the military industrial complex escalated the tensions between the US and Russia. Look up the neocon agenda, Sachs really explains it well, and you'll know why we're in Russia. Your right the 1%, have some 40 percent of the countries wealth and their policy agenda is first on the list of the people we elect into office.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmOePNsNFw0&ab_channel=DemocracyNow%21
Why the link doesn't work, in the first post, well, I don't know.
Now, pretend that The Squad were calling for Medicare For All or similar. The Team D leadership would simply ignore them.
Instead, the so-called progressives were forced to abase themselves publicly in a ritual reminiscent of a Cultural Revolution self-criticism struggle session.
This shows what really matters to the Team D leadership.
#ForceTheVote...?
Not even a self-criticism. They have accused a staffer, who supposedly released it without their knowledge. I really like this expression: “a ritual reminiscent of a Cultural Revolution self-criticism”.
Same comment I left under Taibbi's article: In 2003, I was a gay pussy because I opposed the war in Iraq. In 2022, I'm an anti-gay sexist because I oppose blank checks for Ukraine. Time is a flat circle.
In all seriousness though, if there is one thing the military industrial complex has mastered, it is the art of knowing which way the cultural winds are blowing, then aligning their policies of endless imperialist war with whatever the prevailing cultural flavor-of-the-month is. If Americans reject wokeism writ large, and elect somebody like Ron DeSantis, the military industrial complex will revert immediately to Bush era racist gingoism in order to justify endless war. There is no real ideology behind it, it's just business. In the meantime, though, it is fun to laugh at Jamie Raskin's "woke hawk" routine. Pure comedy.
As I mentioned above perhaps the difference between the anti-war movement in 2003, which I was also a part of, didn't bring the kind of negative rhetoric we see now in reference to Russia if one is understanding of Russia's position. We have become a culture who has been indoctrinated to think in black and white terms, certainly true during the Trump years. Trump is no good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The democrats tied him to Russia, and so killed two birds with one stone, and many, especially the so called elites, bought it. We, the public, and our willingness to go along with bullshit are also to blame, and so are those so called lefties who picked up the democrat's mantra, Trump no good, and it was that god awful Russia who gave him to us. They hooked him up to Russia from day one. All BS but talking to people one would never know, since truth hasn't reached them, and no once has made a concerted effort to see that it has.
Yep. BOLD PREDICTION: Democrats will eventually start to embrace Reagan era "Tough on Crime" authoritarianism as a response to Trump's unequivocally good criminal justice reforms. I truly believe most Democrats are that motivated to stick it to Trump.
Agree!
It is interesting and disappointing to see how long the corporate media and politicians can maintain false narratives, such as everything to do with this conflict boiling down to Putin being a crazy imperialist.
You would think getting this close to the brink of nuclear confrontation would attract more attention to the situation and investigation of things like the Nuland coup in 2014, the shelling and killing of thousands of ethnic Russian civilians in eastern Ukraine, the US biolabs built across the Ukraine (which we now understand pose a threat to a lot more than just Russians), and the major Ukrainian troop movements immediately prior to Russia's invasion.
The stakes are so high, and nothing can be discussed because Putin man bad. The institutional failure of media in particular is on full display. And watching progressive politicians so quickly abandon resistance against this war is an example of how thoroughly representative government is being dismantled.
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
-War Pigs, Black Sabbath 1970
Oh Lord yeah!
FYI (optional reading 😉 ) GG tweets – extracted ~Nov 7 period https://twitter.com/ggreenwald
• This is a group that pretends to speak for Jews. In reality, it's just another banal, standard Dem Party/liberal activist group whose core function is to exploit these causes to agitate for censorship of anyone who questions liberal establishment orthodoxy.
It's the Jewish @HRC
ADL: “Today, we are joining dozens of other groups to ask advertisers to pause Twitter spending because we are profoundly concerned about antisemitism and hate on the platform. Here's why we're asking advertisers to #StopHateForProfit and #StopToxicTwitter -- https://stophateforprofit.org/statement-calling-on-advertisers”
• The scam is to scare corporations by knowing they'll be accused of anti-Semitism unless they bow to ADL's dictates about what ideas and people they can and can't associate with, just as @HRC exploits reckless homophobia accusations to coerce obedience. It's pro-DNC censorship.
• (re-tweet): AOC is a deeply unserious person
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says Elon Musk is sabotaging her Twitter account
• Joy Reid's understanding of history really does begin in 2017. As sketchy as that understanding is, she has no idea that history existed before Trump. The ignorance is stunning. How can someone like this be on TV every night talking about politics, even to a tiny audience?
• In 1974, "President Ford plunged headfirst into the crisis. His first and most public move was to combat inflation. He declared inflation 'public enemy number one.'"
Ford's brand was "WIN: Whip Inflation Now."
How the fuck does Joy Reid know nothing about everything???
• This little dunce - who wouldn't sacrifice for a cause if he lived to be 1,000 - thinks the Kremlin told Snowden to re-tweet a WashPost reporter's mention of a George Will column lightly critiquing Kamala Harris.
• How do these people mock QAnon when they're as conspiratorial?
Aaron Rupar @atrupar: “it really isn't when you realize that Snowden's entire purpose right now is using his platform to advance the Russian government's interests -- hurting the Democratic Party and thereby helping Republicans win office, which ultimately will undermine the US's support for Ukraine twitter.com/_GreatDelusion…”
• But that tweet does express one of the core views of Democratic partisans in media. It's really how they think now.
If you criticize the Dem Party or its leaders then, by definition, you're doing the work of the Kremlin. All critics of Biden are, by definition, Putin stooges.
• Sometimes, parts of our politics become so insane and unhinged for so long that one forgets how demented they are. Starting in 2017, it became completely standard for Dem politicians and DNC media stars to accuse all critics of being Kremlin assets:
Michael Tracey @mtracey:
Congressman Can't Answer Simple Question About His Own Bill, So Accuses Me of Working for the Russian Government
https://mtracey.substack.com/p/congressman-cant-answer-simple-question
• The primary tactic of American liberalism (Dem Party version) is to police and control the flow of information online by silencing, de-platforming, excluding and otherwise punishing anyone who questions of dissents from their pieties and decrees of Truth and Falsity.
Elon Musk @elonmusk: “Twitter has had a massive drop in revenue, due to activist groups pressuring advertisers, even though nothing has changed with content moderation and we did everything we could to appease the activists.
Extremely messed up! They’re trying to destroy free speech in America.
• The lesson Democrats (and their US Security State partners) derived from their humiliating 2016 loss was that the preservation and expansion of their power requires tight control over the internet.
Corporate power (through advertising pressure) is one of their primary tools.
• This is why *the overwhelming majority* of Democrats support **state control** of information online in the name of fighting "disinformation."
In other words, if Big Tech won't capitulate to their censorship demands, Dems want political leaders to mandate that censorship.
• I spoke last night on Fox about a woefully under-covered story: The EU made it *illegal* for any platform to air RT or other Russian media. Now France is demanding US platforms, such as Rumble, obey this and remove RT. Rumble refused, defending its right to air what it wants
Democrats have handed what antiwar vote there is to the Republicans. In Ohio, Vance pulled ahead and stayed there after Ryan said nuclear war could be prepared for and managed by the Very Intelligent People in the Biden Administration.
Vance said that nuclear war was a thing to be avoided because he didn't want to see his family or other Ohio families die.
Raskin is a truly disgusting DNC operative.
FBI demands 66 YEARS to release data on Seth Rich laptop – (his murder is still unresolved.)
2020 elections were indeed STOLEN – by FBI !!
It is probably futile to make this point, but it is exactly the same type of cognitive bias that has so many susceptible to the MSM war propaganda while so many others gullibly accept the lie that the 2020 election was stolen.
It was obviously stolen -- by FBI
And the Russians stole the 2016 election... Or maybe there is no credible evidence that either of those things actually happened.
Exactly as expected. The "self-licking ice cream" of Afghanistan was hastily abandoned because the new one - 10 times bigger - in Ukraine was just being prepared. It is beyond ridiculous to even talk about members of congress as any sort of decision makers here, MIC is going to milk this (read: mostly US tax payers) until the bitter and inevitable end. It is clear that after 6 month of conflict that Ukraine lost independent ability to pursue this war. Not only are they dependent completely on military aid and logistics to keep their troops fighting, their economy is already ruined, and budget needs 3 billions per month to just keep afloat. If the annual outlay to keep the war going is upward of 50 billion, a nice chunk of that will find its way back to various contractors, arms suppliers, think-tanks, consultants and array of similar bottom feeders with vital interests in prolonging the war. Not to even mention the Ukrainian side, the level of corruption there is on epic scale.
Do you really think we left Afghanistan to move on to bigger things, like Ukraine which you say was a new face? No it wasn't. In 2014 the Obama administration backed neo-nazis to bring down a pro Russian government. Just look at the way democrats behaved after a Trump win, like it was imperative to oust him from office, for many reasons, and perhaps the most significant was to move on with their Ukraine agenda. That sounds more likely to me. All that hate about Russia and how they got Trump elected kept the hate going. Well, I see that now as a significant possibility. If Clinton had won she would have picked up Obama's gauntlet I'm sure. Oh, Obama didn't want to send weapons to Russia, probably left that one up to Clinton after her win, like the war in Libya that is always associated with her during his administration. No question she would have sent them., as did Trump. I wonder if he would not have been so compliant in this regard if the democrats were not continuously aligning him to Russia, and any refusal would have substantiated their claims. I always keep in mind the Deep State's involvement.
Leftist intellectual Noam Chomsky asserted during a recent interview that there is only “one western statesman of stature” pushing to end the war in Ukraine – Donald Trump.
https://www.newswars.com/noam-chomsky-trump-is-only-western-statesman-pushing-to-end-war-in-ukraine/
The professor of linguistics made the remarks in a recent interview, a clip of which was posted to Twitter by journalist Glenn Greenwald.
“Well there is, fortunately, one statesman in the United States and Europe…who has made a very sensible statement about how you can solve the crisis, namely by facilitating negotiations instead of undermining them and moving towards establishing some kind of accommodation in Europe,” said Chomsky.
The author went on to describe a plan first introduced by George H.W. Bush – Partnership for Peace – which would guarantee that NATO would not expand further eastwards and “move towards a world with no military alliances.”
Chomsky that the only prominent person advocating a “move towards negotiations and diplomacy instead of escalating the war” was “Donald J. Trump.”
Interesting that Trump, for advocating negotiations to end the war, is being hailed as a statesman by very aged old-timer Chomsky, when his tearing up agreements with Russia and sending heavy weaponry to Ukraine helped to set the stage for the war. Chomsky, remember, advocated that vaxx-resisters be confined to their homes where they could starve to death. No one over age 78 should ever be listened to (Brandon's age when he was (s)elected).
Well, I think the stage was set for the possibility of war when the US participated in the Ukrainian coup in 2014 using the force of the neo-nazis in that country to made it happen and oust the pro-Russian Yanukovych. Obama put Biden in charge of the most corrupt country in Europe and he certainly used that to his son's advantage. I find it interesting that Trump's win bought almost four years of accusations from democrats that the Russians well, put in office. LIES! His get along with Russia position, as well as his visit was met with much criticism from the democrats and the mainstream press which became the democrat's whores. Trump also didn't come across as a big NATO guy, and no wars. Biden of course is another story, since he pushed all our middle eastern wars. and encouraged his fellow democrats to do so as well, and I just cant see the neocons backing Trump, or his willingness to follow their agenda. Nuland and Blinken and other neocons weren't part of Trump's team, but now they are part of Biden's. Hear how the neocons flocked to the democrats during the Trump years, including the CIA? Biden, chooses Nuland to be in his state department like Obama did, and he has Blinken and other neocons. Remember Trump wanted to get along with Russia? I have no question that Biden wanted this war as did his neocon pals and they got what they wanted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmOePNsNFw0
Okay he escalated Obama's war in Yemen and Syria, not sure about Afghanistan but lets remember who initiated all of these wars. Not Trump. I saw an interesting TV clip and most had left the circle of politicians leaving Trump and some reporters behind. He spoke of our stupid wars, that killed millions, cost, millions and once again he called them stupid. There are any number of Trump policies I do not like, like his sanctions on Venezuela, and Iran, and breaking the Iran deal. We could go on, and on, as you could with many presidents. I hated the democrats loathsome, self righteous, manner that defined his base as deplorables, and pushed lies to remove him from office. During his four years in office the press lost most if not all sense of objectivity, and they were in short supply before Trump. Many of the so called left also lost their sensible left wing position and became democrats.
Fran, I'm mostly in agreement with you on Mr. Trump. I voted for him twice. But Trump the candidate was very different from Trump as president. I know that the press gave him a terrible time and treated him unfairly, but he should have done a better job of standing up for his supporters against the Deep State democrats as well as the GOP's RINOS. He knuckled under to them every time he faced a difficult decision. Pompeo and Bolton were equally as terrible as Nuland and Blinken. I'd actually vote for Trump again if he was nominated in 2024, but, at his advanced age, I think there are better candidates.
I understand how you feel and I do hope someone like Desantis runs. It feels easier that way. No baggage. Can't imagine if Trump did win we wouldn't have a repeat performance. I don't think he was in a position to stand against the many forces that wanted to oust him from power, which includes the Deep State, and some in the GOP and of course the democrats and the media, including the left. He also didn't have the political background to help him contend with all that confronted his presidency. I don't know why he chose either one of those two beauties, that is Bolton and Pompeo. Maybe to say to the democrats, hawks, warmongers, see, I'm the same as you.
Chomsky wasn't hailing Trump as a statesman, rather pointing out just how degraded our political culture has become that only someone like Trump is saying this.
Dennis Kucinich has made the same call for diplomacy, but from a place of genuine integrity.
Your prejudice, and no doubt hatred of Trump is obviously affecting your interpretation of what he said. I heard Trump say things in this regard myself. I like Dennis Kucinich, saw him speak several times in person, Once a sane anti-war head in a party that has lost all manner of standards they once held, well, held many decades ago.
lol "progressives"...in US federal politics? Nope.
Thanks Aaron, a very good summary of how bad the dems. are. The only hope is a third party that can at least put some pressure on these fools.
I'd give Mate's summary a 10/10. I think I agree 100%, just do not have all the citations/references to substantiate the points. Mate's seems like the journalist-type to have the "proof" that skeptics always ask for.
Now if only a DC politician would read this article !
Thank you
When I listened to that clip from some D Team propagandist named Jason Crow it immediately dawned on me. Every time he used the name Putin he should have substituted the name Biden, and he would have been correct. The problem with the BIG LIE is that far too many semi-literate gullible people believe it.
Thank you. And a mystery — if our beloved US is basically a bipartisan fascist non-democracy - why is it fashionable for GOP RINOs to call fascist Democrats — communists (?!) and “left” (?!) ?
Interview Diane Sare who is running election to U.S. Senate in NY.